Installation Palo BI Suite 3.0 Community Version

lawa

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 9:19am

Could anybody give a short guide on installation of the Palo BI Suite 3.0 Community Version (for non-IT-professionals)?

Thanx.

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axi

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 11:53am

As far as I have checked it (2009-04-29 11:52) you will be redirected to the 2.5 Linux version...

Let's wait and see what the 'real' 3.0 community edition will look like.

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axi

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 12:15pm

Linux Enterprise

The Linux Enterprise version includes:

ETL-client 1.3 etlclient-1.3-bin.zip
ETL-Server 1.3 etlserver-1.3-bin.zip
Palo 3.0 Addin+Server palo_addin_server_win32_3_0_1_3793_20090331_2009.zip
Palo 3.0 Server palo_3_0.tar.bz2
Supervision Server svs20081124.tgz
Worksheet-Server 2 wss_lin-2-0112sr1.zip

with licenses or hints how to get them for Supervision Server and Worksheet-Server 2 and the Excel WSS Designer.
You need Excel for the Worksheet-Server 2!

All manuals (some german) with installation instructions are included.
You need very thorough linux sysadmin knowledge to get the whole suite working.

Be aware that the Linux FHS is not heeded. So lot of manual work if you want/need to work the Linux way (see http://www.jedox.com/community/palo-foru…p?threadid=1578).

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lawa

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 12:59pm

thanks so far, so I will wait for the corrected links and a windows version.

(and try the trial version that time)

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axi

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 2:22pm

as far as I have "heard" it:
the windows community version will be "compile yourself" just like on linux - but not that easy to get it right IMO and you need non free Microsoft tools.

the windows server (Palo) is free/GPL

The Excel Addin is closed source but free (In the windows edition up to yesterday). I doubt the source will show up on sourceforge...

I have not checked the actual trial licence as of today - so there could be some changes (highly unlikely for the server because of GPL but Jedox could change the license for later versions as I found no community input in the sources ...)

Some readers here: What does "trial" mean? Any change in license?

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realquo

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Thursday, April 30th 2009, 6:45pm

Hi,

I was wondering about the same point: does "trial" mean that the license (physically or legally) expires after 30 days unless we buy a key (or similar) from Jedox?

I agree about the fact that, due to GPL license, the olap server (at least version 3) should remain free, but what about the Excel add-in, that is however an essential component in a lot of solutions? Will it remain free in the current version, and an enhanced commercial version will come out? In this case, will it possible to buy it without buying the whole enterprise version? Etc...

And what about the minimal package "Excel add-in + LOCAL server"? "Local" sounds so lefty...

I clearly understand that Jedox has to make money to live and further develop his products, and that support-only revenues may not be sufficient, but I also think that they should be transparent about product evolution/roadmap, if not from a technical/functional standpoint at least from the legal one. Recent events (MS dropped his PerformancePoint product and the customers that invested on it were not so happy...) have shown how important these aspects are.

Any clarification from Jedox or informed users will be welcome!!

RQ

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gleesoto

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Friday, May 1st 2009, 2:43pm

I can't find the community version on the SourceForce site, only the original version of the V3 Palo Server and Client (March). Anybody have a link to it?

Also mentioned on the press release was the availability of the Palo V3 suite on Amazon EC2, searched the public instances, again no sign.

Tom

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gleesoto

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Friday, May 1st 2009, 7:48pm

Found the sources in http://palo.svn.sourceforge.net/ , seem to include the Worksheet Server V3 under "frontend" ....

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gleesoto

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Friday, May 1st 2009, 9:14pm

The Excel addin sources are also now available on SourceForge see http://palo.svn.sourceforge.net/

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Saturday, May 2nd 2009, 9:37am

Well some info from Jedox is VERY MUCH needed here.

You can't go changing things of this magnitude without explaining properly what the changes mean unless you want to lose the trust of all the people who have come along with you this far.

I'll look forward to someone from Jedox explaining in detail about how this new world works.

Best wishes

John Hobson
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gleesoto

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Saturday, May 2nd 2009, 3:07pm

The sources in http://palo.svn.sourceforge.net/ are not complete seems to be missing various bits and pieces for example...

ini_set('include_path', '.' . PATH_SEPARATOR . $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . '/../lib');
require_once('html_ajax/AJAX/Helper.php');

... the html_ajax folder is empty.

UPDATE: Got a bit further by fetching the HTML_AJAX php package and with bit of hacking managed to at least bring up the login screen and login to Palo, to be hit by another HTML AJAX problem. But with time the problems are solvable but lets hope a complete build or at least build instructions are provided before that.

Nevertheless well done everyone at Jedox.

Tom

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dominik_l

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Monday, May 4th 2009, 10:13am

Hello all,
some info on what is available and how it's pieced together. The community edition of sourceforge includes:
- the server components of Palo OLAP Server (2.5 source so far, 3.0 to follow soon) and Palo ETL Server
- the Palo Olap Server clients: the Excel AddIn (which before was free, but not open source) and OpenOffice Calc Addin as well as jPalo
- the Palo ETL Server clients: the command line clients as well as the Web GUI
- the Source code for Worksheet-Server 3 GUI component

But - please note: the Worksheet-Server 3 consists of a GUI and a Core component. The Core itself is not (yet!) in the sourceforge repository, so WSS3 will not run yet.

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axi

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Monday, May 4th 2009, 10:21am

@Pommie

I do not think much has changed so far.

The only better things I see:
There is an _initial_ checkin for the Excel client (.net-sources very Excel and MS specific - but that is an oxymoron) and the licence is GPL!

Very nice Jedox!

The Olap sources though still look to me like the 2.5 sources:
The readme talks 1.5, the diffs say "no changes" and the commit logs talk about "adjusting to the new directory structure".

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Pommie

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Monday, May 4th 2009, 5:23pm

Well what has changed seems to be that unless you are propeller headed IT whizz kid the free version just became rather hard to install !

I've downloaded it and haven't got a clue what to do with it.

It's very appropriate that one of the files in the package is called config.guess

Any chance of some instructions on how to install the community version in Windows guys?

Best wishes

John Hobson
The Planning Factory, Lytham, UK
www.planfact.co.uk

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dominik_l

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Monday, May 4th 2009, 5:51pm

What is available on Sourceforge is the source code of these applications. To get them to run, you need to compile / build the binary and library files.

A more detailed instruction will probably available later on (maybe one of the IT whizz kids of the forum can slap something together quickly

).

For the Palo OLAP server, a client+server setup will be available for download in the future as well.

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Pommie

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Saturday, May 9th 2009, 7:51pm

OK - having downloaded the enterprise package it seems to contain evaluation versions of worksheet server, excel designer and supervision server along with an unrestricted version of PALO.

What threw me earlier was the fact that on the website it suggests that the whole package is an evaluation.

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Palo BI Suite 3.0 Windows Enterprise Version (30-day trial version)

Am I right in assuming that the version of Palo included here is in fact free of any licence restriction and will continue to function normally after 30 days?

Best wishes

John Hobson
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andreas

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Monday, May 11th 2009, 5:15pm

Quoted

Am I right in assuming that the version of Palo included here is in fact free of any licence restriction and will continue to function normally after 30 days?

yes