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Thursday, November 11th 2010, 11:32am

Palo Community Edition update information

Dear Palo Community Edition Users,

with the release of the Palo 3.2 we want to share our future roadmap of the Palo Community Edition with you.

With the current release of Palo Community Edition Jedox provides a sophisticated open source Business Intelligence suite. Our commitment for the Open-Source edition of Palo is not changed and will continue to be very strong in the future.

There are features that are reserved for the Premium Edition of Palo, but we plan to make all core advancements of Palo in the Community Edition of Palo available as well.

There will be a time gap between the Community Edition and the Premium Edition of 12-15 months. If you look at the Premium Edition today, subtract the premium features (like for example multi-threading, report management, supervision server, GPU acceleration or SAP connectivity) and you have the feature set of the Community Edition of Palo in 12-15 months time. The next release of the Palo Community Edition is therefore now scheduled for mid 2011 and it will contain all core improvements of Palo 3.1 SR1 (which was released mid 2010).

All support, hot fixes, software assurance offerings provided by Jedox continue to be exclusive for users of the Premium Edition. Source code updates which fix critical problems of the Palo Community Version will be provided on SourceForge in a timely manner.

For example, the service release 1 of Palo OLAP Server 3.1 is available on SourceForge since August 2010.

I hope this shows our commitment to the open source community and helps everybody to understand how we will be commercially successful while continuing to be a open source company.

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Kristian Raue / CEO

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Friday, November 12th 2010, 1:32pm

This is bad news from Jedox for PALO OS users and testers.

I think it is a strange way of saying thanks to the community of Palo OS users and testers for the work done. Continue to work with a version for 1 year, which has a lot of errors, is absolutely frustrating and opens the attitude, to use other software solutions instead. Because we do not want to test only and have nothing proper to use afterwards.

I know from many projects, that the start is on a small level first, on a quick OS version, to get experience and to convince in this way the decisionmakers in the company to go afterwards, based on the positive experience made, for a bigger commercial version of Palo (and pay good license etc. to Jedox !)

You do not enable this anymore, by letting the community wait for 12 month or more for a version in a usable quality.

You almost punish the many, mostly small users at the start with PALO.

PALO Suite 3.1 in the actual quality is not producing a good reputation for PALO worldwide. And knowing that you have made the necessary bug repairs and not offering them to the community is a frustrating experience to make with PALO. You might experience taht you will have to make all your testing and collecting of experience on your own in the futurer, paying a lot of money for this.

Is this really your intention and best solution?

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Saturday, November 13th 2010, 10:46am

Hi,

a wise man once said:

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Jedox gets the big testing environment and work of the community for free and as an important input and basis for also improving their commercial versions of PALO. Jedox should pay the fair compensation for this by offering the error eliminated version back.


I can only agree with that. I'd never complain about missing features, because we want to sell Palo too. Open Source enables us to successfully address prospects way below the radar of most commercial vendors. For sure that's a nice thing for a partner, but some of them have already gone premium and there are more to come. But I don't think that I can show the same enthusiasm, that made our customers your customers too, when working with bugs that we now have already been solved.

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Tuesday, November 16th 2010, 11:23am

Quite honestly I don´t see any strong commitment to support and respect the community with this "strategy". The message turns into the opposite of its intention.

But why not establishing a product line that is between the Premuim multi-user version and the community?

A version that contains actual bug fixing, multiprocessor support, single or dual user, etc. but no SAP connectivity, no GPU support AND NO SUPPORT. Customers have to pay for this so the business model of earning money with OS is still valid. A price range of <2k€ shall be accepted by a lot of potential customers who will never use the now Premuim version in their current business environment but are kept happy until they have the extended demand. Payment via credit card.

Think about it!
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Tuesday, November 16th 2010, 1:33pm

Hi,

as far as I know, the Premium Edition already comes without GPU and SAP connectivity. And a 2.000 for how many users? For 10ccu that would be a slap in the face of the developers! Palo is worth MORE! And that's not only my opinion, but the opinion of many users who bought the Premium Edition because of it's cost/performance ratio (I don't know, if that's the best translation for "Preis Leistungsverhältnis").

I think there are enough features in the Community Edition, but without bugfixes the fun will soon be over...

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Robert Tischler
Senior Consultant Vector SW DV GmbH

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Wednesday, November 17th 2010, 8:59am

3.1 SR Palo OLAP on SourceForge

The current available Community Edition 3.1 is feature rich and used by a lot of customers in a productive environment. The BI Survey 9 results of this year shows the power of the community edition in a perfect way. Palo recieved top rankings. A lot of participants are using the CE version of Palo.

Testing and bug reporting is done to 95% by our Permium customers, certified partners and the internal Jedox Q&A department. If CE customers reporting critical issues we always find a way to support them.

For the Community Edition of 3.1 Jedox published the Service Release of Palo OLAP 2 weeks after the Premium Edition on Source Forge. (This version eliminates all found issues and OLAP Server optimizations and is available since August 2010)

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Matthias Krämer
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Wednesday, November 17th 2010, 3:48pm

Why not put things clear in front of everyone and go up to splitting the forum in two different branches :
- One for the users of the Premium Version (for those dealing with the new functions and their batch of new bugs)
- One for the users of the Community Edition (for those still dealing with an older set of bugs, and obviously not concerned by the latest functions) ?

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Monday, May 30th 2011, 12:27pm

RE: Palo Community Edition update information

Hello,
does anybody know something about promissed new CE after 14 months from the last one 3.1? Is it still actual? The new bugfree or better version with some small improvements would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Tuesday, May 31st 2011, 5:03pm

RE: Palo Community Edition update information

Dear ldivis, dear Community,

as of today we released SR3 of Palo Suite 3.2. From tomorrow on we are focussing on the promised update of the community version of Palo.

This summer (no date yet specified but planning August) we will update the community version of Palo in the following areas:

#1 Palo OLAP will be available as Palo OLAP SR1 with all fixes and optimizations of the 3.1 SR1 kernel

#2 Palo Web will be available as Palo Web 3.2 SR2 with all fixes and optimizatios we did in the premium edtion

#3 Palo ETL will be available as Palo ETL 3.2 SR3

#4 Palo for Excel will be available as Palo for Excel 3.1 SR1

I believe this next update shows our strong commitment to our community edition and even tops the strategy we announce earlier this year.

with best rergards

Matthias Krämer
Jedox AG

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Tuesday, May 31st 2011, 7:11pm

RE: Palo Community Edition update information

Hello Matthias,
Thank you for your reply and great information!!!. I look forward very much to announced improvements!
Best Regards,
Lubomir Divis

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Monday, June 27th 2011, 1:39pm

Hello

I'm looking forward to the new community version too. Am I right that the Palo OLAP SR1 CE will be multithreading?
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Monday, June 27th 2011, 6:10pm

Hi,
unfortunately I don't think so, multiprocessor support seems to remain a feature of Premium Edition: http://www.jedox.com/en/products/palo-co…um-edition.html

(I'd be very happy to have multithread on CE!!)

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Monday, June 27th 2011, 9:38pm

Hi,

I don't expect Jedox to release the MOLAP Server with multithreading support. How should they (and their partners) sell Palo Premium, if not though this feature?

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